rosemilly wrote:The person can "ask for it" if they dress inappropriately on purpose.
That's like saying 'he was asking to have his balls kicked because he wasn't wearing a cup' or 'they weren't wearing a protective vest so obviously they were asking to be shot'. Obviously that's not how it fucking works. You are not 'asking' for something by doing or not doing something. If someone wants to show a little or a lot of skin in the way they dress, fine.
Where I'm from(Ontario, Canada) it is completely legal for a woman to walk around topless(like a man) if she should choose. Just because my breasts are showing does not mean I am asking for you to violently assault me.
It is MY body and you do not get to do anything to it unless I say so. No one is 'asking' for it, it's just a bullshit excuse men came up with to try and ignore/get around the fact that they thought with the head between their legs than the one on their shoulders.
Also on that note, just because someone has a lot of sex does not mean they are 'asking' for it either. Nor is it an excuse for raping someone.
What are your thoughts on rape itself
Does this even need asking? It's horrible, plain and simple.
Do you believe people 'ask for it' when they dress provocatively
No, as I made clear above.
What is consent to you
Mutual agreement on both sides without either party having been coerced/forced/under the influence of a substance like drugs or booze and both parties understanding what they are doing and mature enough to be doing it.
If one party is drunk/high or unable to make a clear, rational decision it's not consent. If one party is to young to understand or not fully ready(we have age of consent laws for a reason) then it's not consent. If one party says yes because they've been pressured or somehow forced into it, it's not consent. If one party says yes, then later decides against it, there is no consent.
Do you believe men can be raped too
Yes, any one can be raped. And, something I noticed a lot of people failed to mention, men can rape other men. Just about everybody has said that 'yes women can rape men', no one mentioned men can rape men.
Do you think there's a way to stop rape?
Shoot all the rapists? Probably wouldn't work but, eh. Though, something like this would definitely be a good way to start-
http://www.snopes.com/photos/crime/rapex.asp
Any other thoughts?
I will throw this out there, to anyone who thinks using the 'it's like putting [temping food] in front of [animal that really likes food] and expecting them not to eat it, as justification for raping someone who dressed provocatively, I have some news for you.
My fucking cat understand what no means. She loves bananas, a lot, and will try and steal some if you're eating one. But if I tell her no, she will sit and wait till I give her permission to have someone. Yes, let me repeat that, MY CAT WAITS FOR PERMISSION! If my cat has more self control than you and understands no, there's a problem and you probably shouldn't be allowed on the streets or near any people.
Besides, dogs can be plenty trained to not take a steak even if it's sitting in front of them(that seems to be the main comparison I see) till they're told. Why do you think guard dogs are so good? You can't bribe them with food because they won't take it unless their master says they can have it(or gives it to them themselves).
Same with sharks(the other comparison I see) because unless the shark is actually hungry, it won't feed no matter how tempting food is.
No means no and if you can't understand that you need to go back to kindergarten and relearn a few things.
