Winter Solstice 2018!

[ShaiNeko]

But you don't need shards to crossbreed. You just won't get a doni out of it, only the normal variant. For example, you can breed Emerald and Cobalt Wyverns without shards just fine, but you won't get a Cobalt egg from that.

And it's not like you HAVE to breed them with the midmonth. You can just breed them among each other, too.

I don't see the problem with an extra breed option when it doesn't take away any of the normal things? I mean, if there was some kind of hybrid between the two that could only be obtained by breeding an event rabbit with a doni one, I would understand, but as it is it's literally the same breeding mechanic as with every other event creature, only the added option to breed it with this month's 2-shard, too.

What's so bad about that?

As for the average, Rosehill said the drop rate was (not counting luck) roughly every 6th cookie. That makes 60 drinks for 10 cookies, not 600. Everyone seems to be having bad luck with it, yes, but not 72k-for-10-cookies bad.

... Hopefully. Because that would hurt.

Scroll back in this thread. There are people posting that they're averaging 600 drinks to get 10 cookies. And if you scroll even further back you'll find posts from mods explicit stating that drop rate of cookies was tied to crossbreeding with the midmonth.
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1. I just searched through the topic and found people stating they'd bought 600+ drinks and only gotten 10 or less carrot cookies. Specifically carrot cookies, not cookies overall. There is a difference.

2. If you mean this post by NyxNoire? If you read the quote she's replying to, you notice the comment was aimed at why the rabbitsune cookies are carrot shaped. The description states:

Some animals are better at handling food shortages than others and some go to great lengths to survive. The rabbitsunes fall into the latter category. They were once kitsunes, forced to eat various plants and berries due to a shortage of their usual chosen food, and this eventually prompted a powerful change in their bodies.

Bolding mine. There's nothing about cross breeding and nothing about supposedly tying the drop rates to crossbreeding.

If you are instead referring to this post by Rosehill?

The Rabbitsunes will be able to breed within their own species, so I'm not sure why you feel it's bad that they can, in addition to that, breed with their midmonth counterpart. This breeding mechanic is no different than that of Painted Hinds and Constellation Hinds, or Emerald and Cobalt Wyverns, or Sakulata and Arkenian Sakeira. The way I see it, this gives people more opportunities instead of limiting them. It's true some people may not have the shards to buy the midmonth, yet it's also true that some people might have shards to buy one midmonth and yet have no means to get multiples of the Rabbitsune. With crossbreeding they'd still be able to get more Rabbitsunes via breeding in this case.

There's nothing about drop rates here. Crossbreeding is turned on as an extra option for those who want to breed more Rabbitsunes.

[NepetaLeijon]

Hahaha, my second spell gave me a snowflake.

(Its useless, I guess? That or I don't have the thing I can use it for... still the quest text amused me.)

you use it on krakens! (I think)

[VilaWolf]

But you don't need shards to crossbreed. You just won't get a doni out of it, only the normal variant. For example, you can breed Emerald and Cobalt Wyverns without shards just fine, but you won't get a Cobalt egg from that.

And it's not like you HAVE to breed them with the midmonth. You can just breed them among each other, too.

I don't see the problem with an extra breed option when it doesn't take away any of the normal things? I mean, if there was some kind of hybrid between the two that could only be obtained by breeding an event rabbit with a doni one, I would understand, but as it is it's literally the same breeding mechanic as with every other event creature, only the added option to breed it with this month's 2-shard, too.

What's so bad about that?

As for the average, Rosehill said the drop rate was (not counting luck) roughly every 6th cookie. That makes 60 drinks for 10 cookies, not 600. Everyone seems to be having bad luck with it, yes, but not 72k-for-10-cookies bad.

... Hopefully. Because that would hurt.

Scroll back in this thread. There are people posting that they're averaging 600 drinks to get 10 cookies. And if you scroll even further back you'll find posts from mods explicit stating that drop rate of cookies was tied to crossbreeding with the midmonth.
Edit: fix Quote

1. I just searched through the topic and found people stating they'd bought 600+ drinks and only gotten 10 or less carrot cookies. Specifically carrot cookies, not cookies overall. There is a difference.

2. If you mean this post by NyxNoire? If you read the quote she's replying to, you notice the comment was aimed at why the rabbitsune cookies are carrot shaped. The description states:

Some animals are better at handling food shortages than others and some go to great lengths to survive. The rabbitsunes fall into the latter category. They were once kitsunes, forced to eat various plants and berries due to a shortage of their usual chosen food, and this eventually prompted a powerful change in their bodies.

Bolding mine. There's nothing about cross breeding and nothing about supposedly tying the drop rates to crossbreeding.

If you are instead referring to this post by Rosehill?

The Rabbitsunes will be able to breed within their own species, so I'm not sure why you feel it's bad that they can, in addition to that, breed with their midmonth counterpart. This breeding mechanic is no different than that of Painted Hinds and Constellation Hinds, or Emerald and Cobalt Wyverns, or Sakulata and Arkenian Sakeira. The way I see it, this gives people more opportunities instead of limiting them. It's true some people may not have the shards to buy the midmonth, yet it's also true that some people might have shards to buy one midmonth and yet have no means to get multiples of the Rabbitsune. With crossbreeding they'd still be able to get more Rabbitsunes via breeding in this case.

There's nothing about drop rates here. Crossbreeding is turned on as an extra option for those who want to breed more Rabbitsunes.

Do you remember the time we were threatened with a site deletion and back-up deletion if we didn't rally and pay the sites taxes after donations were first implemented because /someone/ forgot that magistream would count on their tax forms? I do. So yeah, I am concerned.

As you've gone back through the thread, you'll be more than familiar now with the fact that people were going 'aw come on!' for several pages, if not dozens. The responses given to those frustrations and concerns were not creative hints or encouraging at all. Some of them can easily be paraphrased as 'shut up and wait'. I should not have to do this every. single. freaking. event. Because yeah, for years now the standard response to frustration has always been either 'mine harder' or 'shut up and wait'.

[Aflame]

dunno about the shutting up part but I don't see the issue with waiting. patience is a virtue and it's even fun, like the anticipation of waiting to open a Christmas present

[ShaiNeko]

I...I don't even know what to reply. You keep moving the goalposts. I'm going to go get some tea.

[Myrin]

Do you remember the time we were threatened with a site deletion and back-up deletion if we didn't rally and pay the sites taxes after donations were first implemented because /someone/ forgot that magistream would count on their tax forms? I do. So yeah, I am concerned.

As you've gone back through the thread, you'll be more than familiar now with the fact that people were going 'aw come on!' for several pages, if not dozens. The responses given to those frustrations and concerns were not creative hints or encouraging at all. Some of them can easily be paraphrased as 'shut up and wait'. I should not have to do this every. single. freaking. event. Because yeah, for years now the standard response to frustration has always been either 'mine harder' or 'shut up and wait'.

Threatened?! I do remember that time, very well, and it was not a THREAT. It was an open, honest statement from the owner of a fledgling business that was far more successful than expected, and so had a bigger tax impact than expected. The taxes and the fees to keep the site running literally could not both be paid without additional assistance. It's a mistake any first-time business owner can make, and quite obviously it's one that never happened again. But no, this wasn't a learning experience from an honest, if costly, mistake. It was a threat.

Seriously, what kind of monsters do you think are running this site? Why the hell do you keep coming back if you think the staff are this horrible?

[morgainthe]

Do you remember the time we were threatened with a site deletion and back-up deletion if we didn't rally and pay the sites taxes after donations were first implemented because /someone/ forgot that magistream would count on their tax forms? I do. So yeah, I am concerned.

As you've gone back through the thread, you'll be more than familiar now with the fact that people were going 'aw come on!' for several pages, if not dozens. The responses given to those frustrations and concerns were not creative hints or encouraging at all. Some of them can easily be paraphrased as 'shut up and wait'. I should not have to do this every. single. freaking. event. Because yeah, for years now the standard response to frustration has always been either 'mine harder' or 'shut up and wait'.

Threatened?! I do remember that time, very well, and it was not a THREAT. It was an open, honest statement from the owner of a fledgling business that was far more successful than expected, and so had a bigger tax impact than expected. The taxes and the fees to keep the site running literally could not both be paid without additional assistance. It's a mistake any first-time business owner can make, and quite obviously it's one that never happened again. But no, this wasn't a learning experience from an honest, if costly, mistake. It was a threat.

Seriously, what kind of monsters do you think are running this site? Why the hell do you keep coming back if you think the staff are this horrible?

Agree with Myrin

Also, if I remember correctly, that was the year Madd turned 18 and may have been the first year she was responsible for the taxes.

[tempestsea]

ok 9 cookiesh for 72 drinksh - how ...hic... loong am I ...hic... gonna be drunk?

[Dancingstar]

sooooooooo........anyone wanna get wasted with me

(drinks 200th drink)

[Aggs]

People stop complaining and enjoy the game! I don't understand why some people treat it like some kind of chore, even if You won't collect every creature... hey... it's just a game, just a bundle of pixels.