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My problem is similar to this thread, though I've been using Image Free Gold Mine rather than growing hatchlings. I click about 600 links at a time with my snaplinks program on Chrome and noticed I wasn't earning 600 gold per, even with grown adults. So, I experimented. I was at 20,716 gold and clicked 300 links exactly so it would go to 20,016 but I only went to 20,888....I only earned 172 gold for clicking unfrozen adults in a mining site. I'm not sure if maybe my tabs are closing too quick, or there are still site lag issues, even with the holidays being over, or something else, but I hope I can find a solution or at least explanation soon because it's a bit frustrating earning a little over half of what's expected.

Might be the tabs closing to quickly. 600 is a lot (or at least it would be for my PC). I usually go with 50-100 at once, depending on how well the site is loading that day. And sometimes if it doesn't load well at all, I just wait and come back an hour later or so.

Out of curiosity, do the links appear as clicked for you in the Gold Mine? For example, when using the Image Free Nursery, checking if all the links have changed color is a helpful way for me to see if they loaded properly.

ScuroFenice wrote:My problem is similar to this thread, though I've been using Image Free Gold Mine rather than growing hatchlings. I click about 600 links at a time with my snaplinks program on Chrome and noticed I wasn't earning 600 gold per, even with grown adults. So, I experimented. I was at 20,716 gold and clicked 300 links exactly so it would go to 20,016 but I only went to 20,888....I only earned 172 gold for clicking unfrozen adults in a mining site.

I will lay bets this is still 502 errors and lag issues.

The fact is, the 502 errors have still been a pretty significant issue for goldminers, even when it was 'fixed.' Maybe half to 3/4s would load at best. And the more links I opened, accumulatively, the worse it got. I now only open between 100-200 links at a time at the Image Free site, for example, and that seems to help a lot. But it doesn't fix the issue.

Unfortunately, programs that open and close tabs will register a creature as 'clicked' even if you get an instant 502 error, which means you won't get gold for that creature, and you won't know which creatures you missed to reclick on. It's extremely frustrating.

The site worked more smoothly for people who just clicked a small amount of links, I think. But for at least some of us who goldmine, it's been a problem for a while, since before Thanksgiving 2021. I don't know any way to get the complete amount of gold anymore, I just know that some days are better than others, and it's a lot worse right now. Sometimes it's so bad it's not worth it at all, and other times it's only 20-30 502s out of 100 links.

I don't think that's a 'fixed' issue, but a lot of other people do, so... that might be the best it ever is, sadly. I don't know that we'll ever get complete amounts gold from goldmining for that reason.

ETA: It will be slightly better if you only open 100-200 links at once. 600 guarantees a LOT more 502 errors at the moment. It just seems to be way too much for Magistream's servers to handle at once.

Against wrote:Might be the tabs closing to quickly. 600 is a lot (or at least it would be for my PC). I usually go with 50-100 at once, depending on how well the site is loading that day. And sometimes if it doesn't load well at all, I just wait and come back an hour later or so.

Out of curiosity, do the links appear as clicked for you in the Gold Mine? For example, when using the Image Free Nursery, checking if all the links have changed color is a helpful way for me to see if they loaded properly.

Yes, the links diamonds change color for me, so no missed ones there. Thank you for the reply

Ravenari wrote:

ScuroFenice wrote:My problem is similar to this thread, though I've been using Image Free Gold Mine rather than growing hatchlings. I click about 600 links at a time with my snaplinks program on Chrome and noticed I wasn't earning 600 gold per, even with grown adults. So, I experimented. I was at 20,716 gold and clicked 300 links exactly so it would go to 20,016 but I only went to 20,888....I only earned 172 gold for clicking unfrozen adults in a mining site.

I will lay bets this is still 502 errors and lag issues.

The fact is, the 502 errors have still been a pretty significant issue for goldminers, even when it was 'fixed.' Maybe half to 3/4s would load at best. And the more links I opened, accumulatively, the worse it got. I now only open between 100-200 links at a time at the Image Free site, for example, and that seems to help a lot. But it doesn't fix the issue.

Unfortunately, programs that open and close tabs will register a creature as 'clicked' even if you get an instant 502 error, which means you won't get gold for that creature, and you won't know which creatures you missed to reclick on. It's extremely frustrating.

The site worked more smoothly for people who just clicked a small amount of links, I think. But for at least some of us who goldmine, it's been a problem for a while, since before Thanksgiving 2021. I don't know any way to get the complete amount of gold anymore, I just know that some days are better than others, and it's a lot worse right now. Sometimes it's so bad it's not worth it at all, and other times it's only 20-30 502s out of 100 links.

I don't think that's a 'fixed' issue, but a lot of other people do, so... that might be the best it ever is, sadly. I don't know that we'll ever get complete amounts gold from goldmining for that reason.

ETA: It will be slightly better if you only open 100-200 links at once. 600 guarantees a LOT more 502 errors at the moment. It just seems to be way too much for Magistream's servers to handle at once.

Thank you for the reply, Against also wrote it might be best if I open 100-200 at a time, so I think I'll try that and see if it helps out. and yeah, the issues with lag seemed to be mostly the culprit.

The site hasn't experienced any lag for a few days now apart from a very brief moment yesterday, so that most likely isn't the issue.

The Image Free Gold Mine has been put together quite a long time ago and hasn't been updated in years, which means there most likely are creatures in the gold mine that are in hidden tabs, or in trades, and those creatures don't give out gold when clicked.

Rosehill wrote:The site hasn't experienced any lag for a few days now apart from a very brief moment yesterday, so that most likely isn't the issue.

The Image Free Gold Mine has been put together quite a long time ago and hasn't been updated in years, which means there most likely are creatures in the gold mine that are in hidden tabs, or in trades, and those creatures don't give out gold when clicked.

I'm also going to add Master Belmos' tabs of growing creatures here as a place that also throws up many 502s. So only eggs and hatches in the growing tabs. No adults. Also other pages set aside by people for goldmining on Magistream.

And I'm going to add Yarold's, as well, where some people (not everyone) do update quite frequently.

The Image Free Gold Mine adds eggs to the back pages on a regular basis, the number is never static, and rises during an event (like Thanksgiving and New Year's) and then falls right back down afterwards. While it's not cleared often, the system to actually allow people to add eggs does work, especially if folks start from the back (last page) and work forward. Most of the creatures are *not* adults, especially during events. Everything on the last page right now was added on or around January 16th, and that's over 400 tabs of eggs and hatchies. Which I've decided to test, just to make sure I haven't been lying to myself with my eyes all this time.

I just got over 50 502 errors on the Image Free Gold Mine (which yes, is lower than normal for the issues lately while opening 400 links - which is why I said that ScuroFenice will be told that there are no (or fixed) site issues while still getting 502 errors while gold mining). That's just what's happening for some of us. The more links we open at once, the more 502 errors we get, the only 'fix' for that on our end is clicking less links at once. (ETA: Though not always. Just got a 502 error pressing send on this, lol).

And just to make sure, I refreshed *every single one of the 502 pages* and they were all eggs and hatchies from January 16th (and a handful from January 12th-14th that haven't hatched yet - still all eggs and hatchies). Majority are obviously the new Minnow with some Donis and others in there. There wasn't a single hidden link, a single missing egg or hatchie upon refresh, or adult among those 50 (53 to be exact) 502 errors while goldmining. So no, that's definitely not most likely what is happening :/ Next time I can take screencaps if I need to offer proof that yes, those 502 errors did go directly to available eggs and hatchies, if necessary.

I kind of wish we'd be believed when we talk about this issue, even if it's an issue that can never be fixed, even if it's something that we just have to get used to (which is literally what I explained in my reply further up). I never thought I'd have to refresh 53 502 pages just to prove that no, I'm not new to the internet, and I was clicking on unhidden new hatchies and eggs literally within 20 minutes of writing this post, and this isn't just a broken link + adult situation for some of us. It was 53 502 errors in perfectly functional links, and every one said my internet was doing fine, which I believe, because no other site is doing this right now. That's the best it's been in a few days. But that's the situation.

I know it sucks, but the answer isn't 'you don't understand that it's hidden and broken links and adults and the Image Free site doesn't update' - at least for me and those 400+ hatchies/eggs I just clicked on.

The image free nursery and the image free gold mine are two separate sites run by two separate people. Rosehill maintains the IFN. The person who ran the image free gold mine was named Tinni.

Tinni passed away several years ago, but made arrangements to at least keep the site online, even if it didn't get updated. That is why Rosehill mentioned adults being in trades or hidden and not giving gold. The IFGM hasn't been updated since Tinni died. The IFGM pages are static HTML pages that have to be updated manually and since Tinni is no longer around to do so there are going to be pages that you don't get gold for.

If I understand how the the IFN works correctly,
pages are updated by a script when users add and remove things manually, and on a timer when the script determines the creature meets certain conditions. You are less likely to have pages that don't give gold because they are constantly checked and updated.

All that aside, I have been noticing more lag and 502 errors as the weekend progressed. The increase of 502 errors will lead to less gold from both site, but because of the nature of the IFGM you will likely get less gold per page than the IFN.

pegasi1978 wrote:The image free nursery and the image free gold mine are two separate sites run by two separate people. Rosehill maintains the IFN. The person who ran the image free gold mine was named Tinni.

Thank you for this. I thought they were both the same site, and had no other way of knowing without your explanation. I'm definitely using the one that's being updated still.

The IFGM is still good for mining gold as most of it's links are stable and aren't being replaced/removed when they grow up/are frozen/put in trades like the IFN. Everything in the IFGM is adult so as long as it is visible it is available for clicks.

There are some creatures that are repeated from early mines to later mines because the person sold it to someone else who then asked Tinni to make a mine with their creatures and the first owner didn't ask for their mine to be updated. It's just that since she passed and no one in the community has access/control to the site so no updates have been made to the population in the IFGM since March 2015.