August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Reima » August 20th, 2018, 8:24:23 pm

So, I've been thinking of suggesting this, if not for this contest, then for the next one.

Why not disable the 'removal' page link for the duration of the contest? Honestly, who uses or needs it? You can hide creatures in different tabs and trades even and after a while everything gets removed automatically. Me and my friend + easily a handful of others do not use the removal function and instead let the site do that for us because it automatically removes creatures after a couple of days or if your eggs have hatched, etc. Sure it's nice to have the option, but I feel it's caused more harm than good, even if the removal of your creatures by the hands of another is easy to fix, it'd be nicer if we didn't have to worry about our creatures being taken out while we slept etc. Because it happened to yet another person, again

If you can't catch the person, then just make it so that person can't commit the crime in the first place?
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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Baikala » August 20th, 2018, 9:10:52 pm

Reima wrote:So, I've been thinking of suggesting this, if not for this contest, then for the next one.

Why not disable the 'removal' page link for the duration of the contest? Honestly, who uses or needs it? You can hide creatures in different tabs and trades even and after a while everything gets removed automatically. Me and my friend + easily a handful of others do not use the removal function and instead let the site do that for us because it automatically removes creatures after a couple of days or if your eggs have hatched, etc. Sure it's nice to have the option, but I feel it's caused more harm than good, even if the removal of your creatures by the hands of another is easy to fix, it'd be nicer if we didn't have to worry about our creatures being taken out while we slept etc. Because it happened to yet another person, again

If you can't catch the person, then just make it so that person can't commit the crime in the first place?
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I could not agree more. Since, unfortunately, some do not know how to win without cheating, this is the best way to eliminate the problem directly, at least I think so. It's a shame to have to get to that point, but knowing that it involves several people, it would save work, so you do not have to look for who is eliminating creatures that are not his or her.

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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Myrin » August 20th, 2018, 10:59:51 pm

Disabling the removal option is something that was and is under consideration. There were reasons it was not, which include but are not limited to that people do use this option so that would mean removing a resource utilized by some because of bad behavior by at most a few people. Going to shut down the nearest public pool because a couple kids pee in it, or remove those kids' pool access when they're caught?

As for "can't catch the person," I'll quote Rosehill from two pages back.

Rosehill wrote:An official announcement:

A member partaking in the competition has been found removing a total of 20 creatures from the Image Free Nursery, that belonged to other people. That person has been excluded from the competition. The creatures they had grown by now will be counted towards the team's points, but no further of their creatures will, and the person will not be eligible to any prizes resulting from the competition.

Do note, that anyone else found removing other people's competition creatures from the Image Free Nursery will face the same.



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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Xenomorph » August 21st, 2018, 1:01:50 am

I have to ask, has anyone else been having the problem of being randomly logged out while in the middle of posting?

I keep getting logged out while getting new eggs, getting their codes, and posting in the click threads. This is getting very irritating.

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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby midnightem » August 21st, 2018, 1:17:14 am

Xenomorph wrote:I have to ask, has anyone else been having the problem of being randomly logged out while in the middle of posting?

I keep getting logged out while getting new eggs, getting their codes, and posting in the click threads. This is getting very irritating.


I've been having the same problem as well, not really sure what is going on. :( it is very annoying.

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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Slipstream » August 21st, 2018, 2:26:23 am

Are you on mobile? I can never stay logged in to MS on Chrome on my Android. Try changing the browser.

Otherwise, try clearing the cache and cookies?
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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby Rosehill » August 21st, 2018, 4:16:51 am

Regarding creatures removed from the Image Free Nursery and other hatching sites:

Recently there have been people reporting or mentioning that their creatures have been removed from the Image Free Nursery. These suspicions have been made based on the IFN telling how many creatures were added, when a person adds all their creatures again. If the IFN tells that a larger number of creatures were added than the person expected, it stands to reason that some of the creatures, previously thought to already be in the IFN, were not there.

However. This does not automatically mean that someone has removed the creatures from the IFN. There are a number of reasons why the creatures may not be in the IFN any more. It may be that not all of them were added in the first place, for example in such a situation that Magistream is performing a scheduled backup just as someone is trying to add their creatures, or there is some other connectivity issue between the two sites. The IFN also automatically removes creatures by itself:
-The IFN removes any creatures that have been in the IFN for more than 48 hours.
-The IFN removes any creatures that are put in a hidden or protected tab or in a trade.
-The IFN automatically removes any creatures that have hatched and have been originally put in the "to hatchling only" section.

Here is a list of all manual creature removals, i.e. when someone has used the removal page, since the beginning of the competition:


Additional monitors were put in place on August 17th, as that was the earliest time any additional monitoring could be put in place. We discussed about the option to simply remove the removal option from the IFN already very close to the beginning of the competition, but decided to first put in some additional monitoring to see how prevailing the issue was. After that additional monitoring was put in place there were only two instances of someone removing other than their own creatures. In both instances the person in question was the same, and that person has been removed from the competition. After that there have been no manual removals of other people's creatures.

As can be seen from the logs above, someone mass removed 50 and 191 creatures manually on August 14th, which we suspect to be the first occurrence of someone removing other people's competition creatures from the IFN. As the additional monitoring was not in place at that time, finding out the person responsible for that is not that simple.

As a conclusion: if after this post you go to add your creatures in the IFN and find out that some of the creatures you thought were already there, were not, make sure they have not been in a hidden or protected tab or in a trade, and that they haven't been in the IFN for more than 48 hours, and that you are absolutely sure you've added them earlier. If you are confident that the creatures should have been in the IFN but are not, contact your competition team leader, Morgaln or myself and we will look into the matter.

As a second conclusion: Don't remove other people's creatures from the IFN if they have not given their permission. That's shitty and bad behaviour.
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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby VilaWolf » August 21st, 2018, 4:27:25 am

Xenomorph wrote:I have to ask, has anyone else been having the problem of being randomly logged out while in the middle of posting?

I keep getting logged out while getting new eggs, getting their codes, and posting in the click threads. This is getting very irritating.


I'm on chrome and I've been having this problem off and on all year. Generally, I've found that it's a bizarre conflict with Stop Autoplay (in my cast the youtube specific stop-play-next one), and certain adblocker addons that use HTML5.


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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby randomname » August 21st, 2018, 10:52:43 am

Thanks for the detailed info, Rose!
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Re: August 2018 Competition - Team Tussle

Postby LunarCursed13 » August 21st, 2018, 11:16:54 am

VilaWolf wrote:
Xenomorph wrote:I have to ask, has anyone else been having the problem of being randomly logged out while in the middle of posting?

I keep getting logged out while getting new eggs, getting their codes, and posting in the click threads. This is getting very irritating.


I'm on chrome and I've been having this problem off and on all year. Generally, I've found that it's a bizarre conflict with Stop Autoplay (in my cast the youtube specific stop-play-next one), and certain adblocker addons that use HTML5.


This happened to me before. Before logging on, you have to click the "Keep Me Logged On" option. Then, it stops logging you out.

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