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Ah, I see. Thanks Munin. =)

@Munin Oh that makes me SO relieved, you have no idea xD

Hey Munin I did this today because i was bored. I dont' want a critique for it because I love it lots already. I messed up and didn't save the dragon by itself But I'm sure I can improve later. So here it is.
P.S. my shadows had a little fun

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Looks good
If you put everything on separate layers in the future it won´t matter so much if you forget to save part of the image separately.

I tried drawing a frog myself, this time.

Wenn du noch Frösche sehen kannst, magst du mir dann sagen, was ich falsch gemacht habe?
Ich komme mit dem linken Hinterbein, bei den Zehen nicht so recht weiter. Die äußeren zwei Zehen sind okay, aber die anderen drei sehen irgendwie komisch aus (oder sehen die nur komisch aus, weil ich schon so lange darauf schaue?) Das rechte Bein hat eigenartige Verhältnisse, aber das kriege ich wohl nicht besser hin.
Und ich hab ziemlich Probleme mit den Schatten. Jetzt sieht man leider den Pfeil nicht mehr, den ich gemalt habe, um die Lichtquelle darzustellen, aber der ist etwas (etwa nen Zentimeter) links von der Blattader und hat die selbe Ausrichtung wie die Ader.

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Ich hab ihn von einem Bild abgemalt. Er ist etwas anders geworden, aber bevor ich versuche, den perfekt an das Bild anzupassen, mal ich lieber so weiter und versuche, den Körperbau richtig zu machen. Oder ist es für den Anfang sinnvoller, sich ganz an die Vorlage zu halten?

Herbstblatt wrote:I tried drawing a frog myself, this time.

I don't know the other stuff that you said, but that froggie looks cute.

Hey Munin

Since I can't use photoshop on my computer anymore I tried something in MS Paint. He took about 7 hours to make. Could I get your thoughts on my picture?
I might start working in MS paint more often when I get a new computer This is pixel art and not a sprite a friend told me sprites are small while he is giant

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm29 ... dragon.png

He's also in my signature to match the lovely sprite of Kira you made

Thanks so much I appreciate any advice

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So I was bored tonight and did my first sprite. I think I did pretty well. It's a shadow egg of course. I didn't want to do the transparent background because I did this in paint and for some reason photoshop messes with paint and doesn't seem to like it. So here's my first sprite EVER.

Shadow EGG:

Herbstblatt wrote:I tried drawing a frog myself, this time.

Wenn du noch Frösche sehen kannst, magst du mir dann sagen, was ich falsch gemacht habe?
Ich komme mit dem linken Hinterbein, bei den Zehen nicht so recht weiter. Die äußeren zwei Zehen sind okay, aber die anderen drei sehen irgendwie komisch aus (oder sehen die nur komisch aus, weil ich schon so lange darauf schaue?) Das rechte Bein hat eigenartige Verhältnisse, aber das kriege ich wohl nicht besser hin.
Und ich hab ziemlich Probleme mit den Schatten. Jetzt sieht man leider den Pfeil nicht mehr, den ich gemalt habe, um die Lichtquelle darzustellen, aber der ist etwas (etwa nen Zentimeter) links von der Blattader und hat die selbe Ausrichtung wie die Ader.

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Ich hab ihn von einem Bild abgemalt. Er ist etwas anders geworden, aber bevor ich versuche, den perfekt an das Bild anzupassen, mal ich lieber so weiter und versuche, den Körperbau richtig zu machen. Oder ist es für den Anfang sinnvoller, sich ganz an die Vorlage zu halten?

Klar kann ich Frösche noch sehen
Das "Problem" mit der Zeichnung ist, dass sie sehr graphisch und steril ist. Alles ist feinsäuberlich voneinander getrennt, es gibt keinen "flow" im Bild, wo die Körperteile weich ineinander übergehen, teilweise (vor allem an den Hinterbeinen) wirkts fast eckig. Deshalb sehen auch die Zehen komisch aus an dem Hinterbein, sie liegen alle auf einer Ebene, weil du nur die Kontur hast. Die hinteren Zehen würden ja hinter dem eigentlichen Fuß liegen, was duch eine Binnenlinie (sprich eine Linie innerhalb der Kontur) angedeutet würde. Ich kenn mich nun mit der Anatomie von Fröschen nicht so gut aus, aber das Vorderbein kommt mir ein bisschen dünn vor, der kleine hat ja gar keinen "Oberarm". Deine Schatten sind wie deine Linien eher "abstrakt" und viel zu vorsichtig (kann natürlich auch am Scan liegen, der den Kontrast klaut).
Generell ists am Anfang leichter sich an die Vorlage zu halten, weil zur Grundanatomie ja die Perspektive und der Lichteinfall hinzukommen, die du dir bei Abweichungen selbst überlegen musst. Außerdem ists für mich dann viel leichter zu sagen, wo du was verändern musst, weil wir beide das gleiche Bild anschauen. Ich kann ja nicht sehen, was du dir dazu denkst, wenn du abweichst. ;)

For those of you who do not know German:
Herbstblatt has been describing the things she had trouble with while drawing that frog, mainly the legs and the shading. She also asked if it is easier to try to "replicate" a reference or if it is easier to concentrate on the correct anatomy and not bother about deviations from the ref.
I answered her that the whole drawing is a bit too stiff and graphic for an animal in my opinion and that she needs to be a bit more bold in her shading. I also think that staying as close as possible to a reference is easiest in the beginning as even if you know the anatomy well you still have to take into account shading and perspective. Further having a reference helps people like me to give hints and tips what to change as we both have the same image we compare the drawing to.

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Gingy wrote:Hey Munin

Since I can't use photoshop on my computer anymore I tried something in MS Paint. He took about 7 hours to make. Could I get your thoughts on my picture?
I might start working in MS paint more often when I get a new computer This is pixel art and not a sprite a friend told me sprites are small while he is giant

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm29 ... dragon.png

He's also in my signature to match the lovely sprite of Kira you made

Thanks so much I appreciate any advice

Wow, that´s quite impressive for using Paint, especially because of the size
(Just a question...why not use GIMP if PS doesn´t work anymore? I could imagine that´s way easier...)

Pose and colouring are great. Shading is a bit limited but that is to be expected using Paint and the style you used to solve that looks very good.
What I would recommend and what will be horrible to do with paint I guess is trying to clean the lines a bit better. In many places there are odd angles, absolutely flat lines, double pixels etc. With a pixel drawing as large as this I fully understand that it is a lot harder to get clean lines than it is for sprites but I think it would improve the overall appearance.
But as I said, that is already impressive as it is.

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DarkRider wrote:So I was bored tonight and did my first sprite. I think I did pretty well. It's a shadow egg of course. I didn't want to do the transparent background because I did this in paint and for some reason photoshop messes with paint and doesn't seem to like it. So here's my first sprite EVER.

Shadow EGG:

First rule for a sprite: Never ever, NEVER save it as a jpg. It completely destroys a sprite.
Thus I cannot say anything about your technique or any details unfortunately.
What I can still see is that your lighting looks a bit odd to me. The light seems to be coming from the front-up which is very unusual. The shape of the light spot/"shading rings" is a bit too narrow so that the shading does not fit the shape of the egg (it suggests a much narrower shape).
Further I am a bit confused as to whether the shadow tendrils throw shadows on the egg or not. If they do the one at the top left needs an additional shadow.

Ok Gottcha never save as a JPEG. What would I save it as? A GIF? How thick should I make the shading lines? I didn't know that first off and was testing it.

I did mention a while back that I'm not that great at choosing lighting......I would like to improve that ^^

Thanks for the tips. Any further tips could be used